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So, in Indonesia at this time, if you were carrying a needle and the Bobby Portis Bobby Bobby Bobby Shirt and I love this cops rounded you up, they could put you into jail. And that changes the equation slightly, doesn’t it? Because your choice now is either I use my own needle now, or I could share a needle now and get a disease that’s going to possibly kill me 10 years from now, or I could use my own needle now and go to jail tomorrow.

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And while junkies think that it’s a really bad idea to expose themselves to HIV, they think it’s a much worse idea to spend the Bobby Portis Bobby Bobby Bobby Shirt and I love this next year in jail where they’ll probably end up in Frankie’s situation and expose themselves to HIV anyway. So, suddenly it becomes perfectly rational to share needles. Now, let’s look at it from a policy maker’s point of view. This is a really easy problem. For once, your incentives are aligned. We’ve got what’s rational for public health. You want people to use clean needles — and junkies want to use clean needles.